The employment minister was tied in knots on live TV as she was grilled about Labour's plans to reduce the country's benefits bill. Alison McGovern repeatedly refused to say whether someone who is not sick but is signed off work with illness is committing "criminal activity". She said "people have stolen from the state" as she raised an "absolutely unacceptable" case of an organised crime group of that stole from the Social Security system. The DWP minister suggested this was what Keir Starmer