NYT journalists Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan do a deep dive into how the White House tried to deal with the Epstein files, and the confidential internal polling that showed how important the topic is for Trump’s base. Haberman and Swan join Morning Joe to discuss their new bombshell book, “Regime Change,” which explores in detail the first year of the second Trump administration. MS NOW: My Source for News, Opinion, and the World. » Subscribe to MS NOW: / @msnow » Subscribe to MS NOW’s We