The cliché is always that it's men who are afraid of commitment and having kids. But a Pew Research poll just shows that, for Gen Z, it's the women who are more hesitant to start a family. Is the "motherhood penalty" finally scaring women away, or are men just seeing family life through a different lens? Sean Illing and Anna North break down why the "lost generation" is suddenly so divided. Listen to The Gray Area with Sean Illing on Mondays and Fridays wherever you get your podcasts or here on