Hello, and welcome to Decoder ! My guest today is Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe, and I’m very excited to be talking to him on my show today. And when I say my show… I mean Nilay Patel’s show. This is my final episode filling in for Nilay while he’s out on parental leave. I’m Joanna Stern, the senior personal tech columnist at The Wall Street Journal , author of the upcoming book I AM NOT A ROBOT (out in 2026), and — fun fact — a cofounder of The Verge . Decoder is off next Monday, but when the show